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(7) Piety and
Justice
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Socrates. Tell me, then -- Is not that which is pious |
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necessarily just? |
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Euthyphro. Yes. |
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Soc. And is, then, all which is just pious? or, is that which is |
All which is pious is just:-is therefore all which is just pious? |
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pious all just, but that which is just, only in part and not all, |
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pious? |
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Euth. I do not understand you, Socrates. |
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Soc. And yet I know that you are as much wiser
than I am, as |
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you are younger. But, as I was saying, revered friend, the |
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abundance of your wisdom makes you lazy. Please do exert |
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yourself, for there is no real difficulty in understanding me. |
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What I mean I may explain by an illustration of what I do not |
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mean. The poet (Stasinus) sings -- |
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Of Zeus, the author and
creator |
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of all these things, |
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You will not tell: |
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for where there is fear there is also reverence. |
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Now I disagree with this poet. Shall I tell you in what respect? |
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Euth. By all means. |
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Soc. I should not say that where there is fear there is also |
We may say, e. g., that wherever there is reverence
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reverence; for I am sure that many persons fear poverty and |
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disease, and the like evils, but I do not perceive that they |
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reverence the objects of their fear. |
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Euth. Very true. |
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Soc. But where reverence is, there is fear; for he who has a |
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feeling of reverence and shame about the commission of any |
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action, fears and is afraid of an ill reputation. |
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Euth. No doubt. |
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Soc. Then we are wrong in saying that where there is fear |
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there is also reverence; and we should say, where there is |
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reverence there is also fear. But there is not always reverence |
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where there is fear; for fear is a more extended notion, and |
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reverence is a part of fear, just as the odd is a part of number, |
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and number is a more extended notion than the odd. I suppose |
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that you follow me now? |
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Euth. Quite well. |
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Soc. That was the sort of question which I meant to raise when |
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I asked whether the just is always the pious, or the pious |
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always the just; and whether there may not be justice where |
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there is not piety; for justice is the more extended notion of |
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which piety is only a part. Do you dissent? |
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Euth. No, I think that you are quite right. |
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Soc. Then, if piety is a part of justice, I suppose that we should |
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enquire what part? If you had pursued the enquiry in the |
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previous cases; for instance, if you had asked me what is an |
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even number, and what part of number the even is, I should |
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have had no difficulty in replying, a number which represents a |
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figure having two equal sides. Do you not agree? |
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Euth. Yes, I quite agree. |
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Soc. In like manner, I want you to tell me what part of justice |
Piety or holiness is that part of justice which attends upon the
gods. |
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is piety or holiness, that I may be able to tell Meletus
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me injustice, or indict me for impiety, as I am now adequately |
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instructed by you in the nature of piety or holiness, and their |
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opposites. |
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